In reply to Mr Brogard: Remember, this was written in 1997: "Next comes the Ukrainian question. The sovereignty of Ukraine is such a negative phenomenon for Russian geopolitics that, in principle, it can easily provoke an armed conflict. Without the Black Sea coast from Izmail to Kerch, Russia gets such an extended coastal strip, really controlled by someone unknown, that its very existence as a normal and independent state is called into question. The Black Sea does not replace access to the "warm seas" and its geopolitical significance drops sharply due to the stable Atlanticist control over the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, but at least it makes it possible to secure the central regions from the potential expansion of Turkish influence, being extremely convenient, reliable and an inexpensive border. Ukraine, as an independent state with some kind of territorial ambitions, poses a huge danger to the whole of Eurasia, and without a solution to the Ukrainian problem, it is pointless to talk about continental geopolitics at all. This does not mean that the cultural, linguistic or economic autonomy of Ukraine should be limited, and that it should become a purely administrative sector of the Russian centralized state (as, to some extent, was the case in the tsarist empire or under the USSR). But strategically, Ukraine should be strictly a projection of Moscow in the south and west (although more details about possible models of restructuring will be discussed in the chapter on the West). The absolute imperative of Russian geopolitics on the Black Sea coast is the total and unlimited control of Moscow along its entire length from Ukrainian to Abkhazian territories. It is possible to divide this entire zone on an ethno-cultural basis as much as you like, granting ethnic and confessional autonomy to the Crimean Little Russians, Tatars, Cossacks, Abkhazians, Georgians, etc., but all this only with absolute control of Moscow over the military and political situation. These sectors must be radically divorced from the thalassocratic influence coming from the west and from Turkey (or even Greece). The northern coast of the Black Sea should be exclusively Eurasian and centrally subordinate to Moscow..." https://n01r.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Foundations-of-Geopolitics-Geopolitical-Future-of-Russia-Alexander-Dugin-English-auto-translation-with-appended-original.pdf
And that last bit, written 25 years ago, is being carried out today. Crimea was the first chunk to be bitten off, now it’s Donetsk, Zaporhizia, and Kherson Oblasts, after that Odessa. Moldova appears to have been placed within the Moscow-dominated Eurasian sphere of influence. If this analysis is correct, then Romania is next, followed by Bulgaria - but Ukraine is the keystone. It should now be obvious - from this book written 25 years ago (whose full English translation I just found - French and German are easy, but Russian is hard work...) - that the outrage over the US-funded biological warfare labs and everything else was just a convenient pretext for something that was planned out decades ago.
So what Moscow really has in mind is the re-construction of the old USSR, which loss Putin has been wailing about for the past 30 years. As to Zelenskyy and the current Ukraine government, sure, it's a crooked deal, like any other centralized, powerful government, where the citizens don't normally have much if any firepower - and if you don't have firepower and the will to use it, you don't have power. The only limitation effective against governments comes down to raw force, it's the only thing they understand, whether it's a native parasite or a foreign invader. But Ukraine has relatively prospered since 2014, while the citizen/serfs of Russia have been getting hind tit - and less of that as time goes on. Usually the more repressive the government, the greater the corruption and robbery...
all looks like madness to me and cynical arms and other profiteering by the 'supporting' nations.
it is all clear and obvious and deliberate fueling of the 'go to war' mantra rather than any 'go to talks' mantra.
It is clearly in the interests of the USA etc. to sell, give promote their arms, see them in action, disrupt Europe, diminish Russia, etc.
But how much in the interests of the Ukrainian people is it?
Nearly 5 million of them refugees now? That's in their interest?
And what's the plan? Ukraine is going to defeat Russia? What - invade and conquer Russia?
Or it is going to drive Russians out of Ukraine? And have a perpetual conflict on the borders like an active North Korea/South Korea thing?
Which, in fact wouldn't be far from what they already had in the Donbas completely illegally and in contradiction of the Minski agreements.
And while all this goes on the Ukrainian people are profiting
And the Ukraine is profiting as it becomes an American satrapy, like Vietnam, relying on 'free' influx of materiel and funds and an ever continuing war?
And Zelensky and all become entrenched?
And Russia gets driven back behind an Iron curtain where it of necessity either grows stronger and more independent or dies ?
And who in reason would expect a resource rich nation with vast lands spanning the globe and 150 million patriotic and fiercely capable people is going to die?
So who's the loser out of all that?
Ukraine.
You get lying thieves in charge of a country and no good comes of it.
To see this current debacle as 'good' is ludicrous.
And seen as 'good' it is. Prime time viewing. An orgy of hate, everyone reveling in rolling around and hating the Russian people.
The Russian people.
People.
Who, as is the usual, as it happening in Ukraine, have bugger all say in anything that is happening.
It is all as farcical wicked and nonsensical as the whole covid thing.
All around the world people lolling around on their armchairs and sofas, goggling at the tv, clapping their hands with glee, watching death, mutilation and murder and applauding stoking the fires....
All supported, condoned by people who should know better.
Thanks for a report. Had not understood so many died on that ship. More incompetence on display. Wonder when Russian stocks of rockets, missiles become low. Seeing western nations complaining about supply issues when they can open factories if needed.
In reply to Mr Brogard: Remember, this was written in 1997: "Next comes the Ukrainian question. The sovereignty of Ukraine is such a negative phenomenon for Russian geopolitics that, in principle, it can easily provoke an armed conflict. Without the Black Sea coast from Izmail to Kerch, Russia gets such an extended coastal strip, really controlled by someone unknown, that its very existence as a normal and independent state is called into question. The Black Sea does not replace access to the "warm seas" and its geopolitical significance drops sharply due to the stable Atlanticist control over the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, but at least it makes it possible to secure the central regions from the potential expansion of Turkish influence, being extremely convenient, reliable and an inexpensive border. Ukraine, as an independent state with some kind of territorial ambitions, poses a huge danger to the whole of Eurasia, and without a solution to the Ukrainian problem, it is pointless to talk about continental geopolitics at all. This does not mean that the cultural, linguistic or economic autonomy of Ukraine should be limited, and that it should become a purely administrative sector of the Russian centralized state (as, to some extent, was the case in the tsarist empire or under the USSR). But strategically, Ukraine should be strictly a projection of Moscow in the south and west (although more details about possible models of restructuring will be discussed in the chapter on the West). The absolute imperative of Russian geopolitics on the Black Sea coast is the total and unlimited control of Moscow along its entire length from Ukrainian to Abkhazian territories. It is possible to divide this entire zone on an ethno-cultural basis as much as you like, granting ethnic and confessional autonomy to the Crimean Little Russians, Tatars, Cossacks, Abkhazians, Georgians, etc., but all this only with absolute control of Moscow over the military and political situation. These sectors must be radically divorced from the thalassocratic influence coming from the west and from Turkey (or even Greece). The northern coast of the Black Sea should be exclusively Eurasian and centrally subordinate to Moscow..." https://n01r.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Foundations-of-Geopolitics-Geopolitical-Future-of-Russia-Alexander-Dugin-English-auto-translation-with-appended-original.pdf
And that last bit, written 25 years ago, is being carried out today. Crimea was the first chunk to be bitten off, now it’s Donetsk, Zaporhizia, and Kherson Oblasts, after that Odessa. Moldova appears to have been placed within the Moscow-dominated Eurasian sphere of influence. If this analysis is correct, then Romania is next, followed by Bulgaria - but Ukraine is the keystone. It should now be obvious - from this book written 25 years ago (whose full English translation I just found - French and German are easy, but Russian is hard work...) - that the outrage over the US-funded biological warfare labs and everything else was just a convenient pretext for something that was planned out decades ago.
So what Moscow really has in mind is the re-construction of the old USSR, which loss Putin has been wailing about for the past 30 years. As to Zelenskyy and the current Ukraine government, sure, it's a crooked deal, like any other centralized, powerful government, where the citizens don't normally have much if any firepower - and if you don't have firepower and the will to use it, you don't have power. The only limitation effective against governments comes down to raw force, it's the only thing they understand, whether it's a native parasite or a foreign invader. But Ukraine has relatively prospered since 2014, while the citizen/serfs of Russia have been getting hind tit - and less of that as time goes on. Usually the more repressive the government, the greater the corruption and robbery...
all looks like madness to me and cynical arms and other profiteering by the 'supporting' nations.
it is all clear and obvious and deliberate fueling of the 'go to war' mantra rather than any 'go to talks' mantra.
It is clearly in the interests of the USA etc. to sell, give promote their arms, see them in action, disrupt Europe, diminish Russia, etc.
But how much in the interests of the Ukrainian people is it?
Nearly 5 million of them refugees now? That's in their interest?
And what's the plan? Ukraine is going to defeat Russia? What - invade and conquer Russia?
Or it is going to drive Russians out of Ukraine? And have a perpetual conflict on the borders like an active North Korea/South Korea thing?
Which, in fact wouldn't be far from what they already had in the Donbas completely illegally and in contradiction of the Minski agreements.
And while all this goes on the Ukrainian people are profiting
And the Ukraine is profiting as it becomes an American satrapy, like Vietnam, relying on 'free' influx of materiel and funds and an ever continuing war?
And Zelensky and all become entrenched?
And Russia gets driven back behind an Iron curtain where it of necessity either grows stronger and more independent or dies ?
And who in reason would expect a resource rich nation with vast lands spanning the globe and 150 million patriotic and fiercely capable people is going to die?
So who's the loser out of all that?
Ukraine.
You get lying thieves in charge of a country and no good comes of it.
To see this current debacle as 'good' is ludicrous.
And seen as 'good' it is. Prime time viewing. An orgy of hate, everyone reveling in rolling around and hating the Russian people.
The Russian people.
People.
Who, as is the usual, as it happening in Ukraine, have bugger all say in anything that is happening.
It is all as farcical wicked and nonsensical as the whole covid thing.
All around the world people lolling around on their armchairs and sofas, goggling at the tv, clapping their hands with glee, watching death, mutilation and murder and applauding stoking the fires....
All supported, condoned by people who should know better.
Thanks for a report. Had not understood so many died on that ship. More incompetence on display. Wonder when Russian stocks of rockets, missiles become low. Seeing western nations complaining about supply issues when they can open factories if needed.