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Turns out that Kaliningrad is a warm water port, too, https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/kaliningrad-russias-political-island-and-key-strategic-exclave/ and it doesn't have the exposure that Crimea does to a hostile mainland. There is, of course, the Suwalki corridor - going through NATO territory - but ships based in Crimea have to go through the Dardanelles Strait, both sides of which are controlled by Turkey, a member of NATO. Anti-ship missiles fired from either shore at Russian ships - that would be like shooting fish in a barrel - and that strait is *long*. A couple of sunk ships would make navigation that much more difficult. And Russia would have to occupy both sides to ensure safe passage, so Crimea has its definite disadvantages.

Putin has stated that he doesn't intend to occupy Ukraine - said so at the outset. And now it's pretty obvious that he *can't* unless he wants another Afghanistan. The mistake that Ukraine government(s) have made is not arming their population like the Swiss have done, handing out guns after conflict has begun is a pretty desperate measure. It seems to have worked out OK, but a population armed with crew-served weapons, rifles, and anti-tank missiles - and trained in their use - would have been a huge deterrent. And if a government doesn't trust its citizens with military weaponry, then there's something *badly* wrong with that government.

As for Dugin, he's had Putin in his pocket for a long time - he's behind Strategic Culture, Fort Russ, Greanville Times, Near Eastern Outlook, Asian Times, and suchlike - and I'd include Andrei Martyanov, The Saker, anti-empire.com, and Moon of Alabama in that particular archipelago - the people advocating for a Greater Eurasia, Russia's answer to the Silk Road thing. Lots of US "conservatives" have been suckered in, too. The enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend. Ron Unz seems to post a lot of their stuff and has for years. I posted on Dugin here: https://streamfortyseven.substack.com/p/heres-a-little-article-by-aleksandr

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Well that seems very convincingly to dispense with the 'protect the russian speakers' argument. It's only your anecdotal evidence though, I suppose. Might be wise to wait and see if we get anecdotes telling the opposite story. Though I am pretty convinced by you.

So that leave the NATO oppression story? What about it? Pretty hard to get rid of it I think?

And then the ins and outs of doing a deal right now that simply promises no NATO. Why on earth not?

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