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Gary SonofWilliam's avatar

Another great post, Graham! Quite useful to me, too. Just in case.

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HardeeHo's avatar

Just for reference Hydrogen Peroxide can't be stored easily. It loses ~ 1%/year after production and there is rarely a production date. You can estimate strength by smell and taste - if you can't detect the proper odor, likely too old. The 10% solutions are not particular safe but obviously last longer in the bottle. I doubt we can know the real strength of our bottles so we can dilute properly.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQIEUQjjwM/ or https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-test-hydrogen-peroxide-at-home or https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-shelf-life-of-a-brown-plastic-bottle-of-hydrogen-peroxide-before-and-then-after-it-is-opened.

Nice to think of options, hope they will not b needed.

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Graham Seibert's avatar

Thanks. Given the chemical formula, H2O2, it is obvious that the extra oxygen separates from the water fairly readily. I had established the 1% per year figure myself. Only if it is unopened. It is so cheap, at about 80 cents a 100 ml bottle, that I wasn't worried.

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mark n.'s avatar

What forethought! What prudence! What wisdom!

I approve plan B! If necessity requires.

Let us hope it does not come to that. But if it does, the plan is well devised.

I wish all that is good, to the house of Seibert.

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Thomas Pierce's avatar

I like this suggestion. The area in question is located next to the most successful province of Brazil which was settled primarily by Germans. Areas north of Columbia are no longer safe, including Costa Rica, because of the drug smuggling cartels. Ecuador now is suffering and people that I know who lived there have either moved or are moving, neighborhoods are closing into little fortresses to protect themselves from the cartel violence. So far, Panama is free of the cartels and smuggling because Panama is primarily a police state, but Costa Rica is now being used as a transport point for cocaine to move north. Some countries such as El Salvador have become police states themselves in order to rid the country of the cartels and gang violence, all driven by the cocaine trade going north to the US.

By moving south, you avoid the cartel violence because there is no profit center like North America. Although I haven't been there, just recently I have been reading a book by Thomas Sowell about migration patterns in the world which included the Germans, Italians, Chinese, and more. His discussion of the Germans in Brazil was enlightening. If one could take the good qualities of Germans and package that into a country, it could be very successful and a good place to live. I watched a video recently about a German settlement in Paraguay, but I was unimpressed by the the landscape which had zero appeal to me.

I have recently given up on the idea of moving to Panama, primarily because I don't want to live in a police state and I fear that eventually the cartels will end up controlling all corridors north to the US to deliver the white powder.

You're right that the people behind the virus threats are coming for us. They want to put needles into our arms until we all die and they are left to control the planet without too many mouths and butts, mouths which steal resources and butts which leave behind waste. The super rich want to live in a pristine world without the peons, slaves, and pawns. Gotta find someplace to go where they won't bother with us.

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Joel W. Hay, PhD's avatar

There’s a bar in Rosarito Playa called Plan B. But I don’t think it would fit your circumstances very well.

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Joel W. Hay, PhD's avatar

Although, if the world has a future, Mexico is it!

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Graham Seibert's avatar

A cryptic observation! Mexico and Argentina each have their virtues. Argentina's political history since the '50s has been a disaster, but it is a more European country than Mexico.

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