I think Roberts has long gone past his "Sell By" date, he's been firmly in the pocket of the Russian imperialists for years now, doing his part to help them create their "Greater Eurasia". No doubt he got suckered by Dugin's "Fourth Political Theory", what appears to be a nice piece of dezinformatsiya put out to sucker "conservatives" into helping Putin et al re-create the old Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc. Ron Paul isn't too swift, either, maybe he should be made aware of the following, written in 1997, which has much present day significance:
"The absolute imperative of Russian geopolitics on the Black Sea coast is the total and unlimited control of Moscow along its entire length from Ukrainian to Abkhazian territories. It is possible to divide this entire zone on an ethno-cultural basis as much as you like, granting ethnic and confessional autonomy to the Crimean Little Russians, Tatars, Cossacks, Abkhazians, Georgians, etc., but all this only with absolute control of Moscow over the military and political situation. These sectors must be radically divorced from the thalassocratic influence coming from the west and from Turkey (or even Greece). The northern coast of the Black Sea should be exclusively Eurasian and centrally subordinate to Moscow..." https://n01r.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Foundations-of-Geopolitics-Geopolitical-Future-of-Russia-Alexander-Dugin-English-auto-translation-with-appended-original.pdf
And that last bit, written 25 years ago, is being carried out today. Crimea was the first chunk to be bitten off, now it’s Donetsk, Zaporhizia, and Kherson Oblasts, after that Odessa. Moldova appears to have been placed within the Moscow-dominated Eurasian sphere of influence. If this analysis is correct, then Romania is next, followed by Bulgaria - but Ukraine is the keystone. It should now be obvious - from this book written 25 years ago (whose full English translation I just found - French and German are easy, but Russian is hard work...) - that the outrage over the US-funded biological warfare labs and everything else was just a convenient pretext for something that was planned out decades ago.
Here’s some background on Aleksandr Dugin:
”Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin, the man behind “Duginism,” is a Russian political strategist with ties to some of the most powerful people in Russia; various oligarchs, billionaires, Kremlinites, military men, and even Putin himself. This includes people such as Sergey Naryshkin (Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service), Igor Rodionov (Defence Minister), and Gennadiy Seleznyov (Chairman of the State Duma). Dugin’s father was a colonel-general of Russia’s Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), which is essentially the Russian militaries’ own KGB; a foreign-intelligence agency. GRU was originally established in the USSR by Leon Trotsky’s deputy. Because Dugin’s father was an extremely high ranking glowie, Dugin was born into spookdom; the number of influential KGB agents that Dugin has collaborated with is too long to list: http://archive.vn/iOvCT.
There has been no impact to negotiations with Russia. Sanctions aren’t doing anything now except isolating them from the west. They still have the oil, gas and $600B of physical gold reserves. Their central bank is making it easy for friends to buy their exports. The USA threw all their leverage at them. They got take. Off swift... the Rouble is stronger now than it was in January. The USA is in an economically leveraged Keynesian nightmare, manufactured by our inept central bankers and the political left. I am no neocon, and I expect the world order to conduct business these days in peace. However, 2 months into this war, if nobody else is capable or willing, then the Ukrainians need to wipe out the Russians entirely. This crap with Russia being a threat backed up by China has to end in the 21st century. We spend $85B a year on the intelligence community... when we needed them most they just yelled at us, exclaiming that a very very bad man in Russia was starting a war... and then promptly did nothing. I’m right with Graham on this. What did we waste $1 Trillion on the pentagon over the last decade? I’m not suggesting American soldiers be deployed. The Ukrainians have proven exceptionally capable. Maybe even more efficient than Americans at this point given their abilities with the limited resources at their disposal up to this point. The American economy does not need this war now. It’s adding fuel to the domestic fire. Drop thermite plasma on the Russian Military for all I care. Send a space net and take out all of the Russian satellites. All 400 of them. Destroy their ability to communicate at all. Take them back to 1917. The Russians don’t have enough resistance in their population to stop him, fine. When this is over, I suspect Russia will look like Japan after WWII. One thing is certain: the Neocons got their wish. Now it’s time to fold them like Iraq in Desert Storm. But their chicken shits. Nobody wants to see Putin use nuclear weapons. I might remind everyone that it is the USA who had them first. The Russians were second. Stalin even claimed nuclear war with the west was inevitable. So we had better find a way to deal with that threat or it will make everyone a pussy from here on out. It’s not about punishment. Americans need our intelligence agencies out of this war. So they need to end it and end it now. Putin won’t negotiate in good faith or the neocons haven’t tried. Either way, whatever we have now isn’t working to stop anything. Putin will con-scribe his high schoolers and wipe out a generation. They got their wish, they’re at the big game. Putin wanted a war. Let’s give the Ukrainians what Putin asked for. Then we can punish the Russians. Diplomacy only works if the hard power to enforce it actually has a backbone. Time to go to the chiropractor.
I'm not particularly keen on supporting Putin and while I'm conservative, I've never seen Putin as a religious figure in any way. I was aware of Tucker who seems to want to avoid US troop involvement. I suspect there may be some troops involved that we will not hear about to assist in the field on a near individual basis. If Ukraine needs arms, the world should help. Russia needs to be stopped before any real escalation. We can hope Putin is not foolish enough to use nuclear weapons placing the west in a really crisis. But Russia has indicated that they are not particularly effective in the field allowing considerable losses. I worry more about how Russia can deal with the end of this conflict and what the world must do to rebuild.
You got everything right except your analysis of this war. The last thing the US should be doing is sending more weapons. It's not like Ron Paul and PCR are all of a sudden wrong. You are too close to this conflict. Putin has no desire to reconstitute the USSR. The US should be strongly encouraging both parties to sit down at the negotiating table, not sending $33B more in "assistance." Instead, the senile old man who has no clue what his handlers are doing, is sending more Ukrainian young men to their deaths for no reason.
Negotiation with the Russian has been an exercise in frustration throughout history. Read my posts about what Custine (1839), John Hay (1905) and others have written. We need to be willing to negotiate, but recognize that the Russians only recognize strength.
Young Ukrainian men are willing to die because they do not want to be Russian. They want to be free. The same thing that motivated Patrick Henry, George Washington and my namesake Nathan Hale. They would rather die standing up than live on their knees. They make me proud.
Russia has borders. If they go back within their own borders the war will end. Ukraine wants nothing except to be left alone.
George Washington, as you well know, is also famous for his "no foreign entanglements" speech. You and I both know none of our Founding Fathers would have supported our involvement in this conflict half way around the world. If we had not gotten involved this war would not only be over, it probably never would have been started, but because US neocons like Nuland and Blinken were urging Zelensky on, telling him we have his back, a lot of young Ukrainian men are dead. A whole generation of young men are gone. For what? Freedom? Nonsense. This war never should have started and all of these men would be alive today.
You imply that allowing the Russians to win would save Ukrainian lives. It has not worked that way in occupied Donbass. The two people's republics are conscripting men between 18 and 60 to fight Russia's war.
Bob Homans wrote the same yesterday about Transniestria: "People are leaving en masse from the unrecognized Transnistria. The government there has announced a general military mobilization of all males between 18 and 60."
Communications have been intercepted from Russian field commanders indicating that they are shooting conscripts who refuse to fight the Ukrainians. Russia's soldiers don't want to be there. As has been the case throughout Russia's history, the common soldiers are disproportionately drawn from the hinterlands, disproportionately from ethnic minorities. Putin cannot afford unrest among the mothers in Petersburg and Moscow.
Bottom line is that surrendering to Russia is no way to save your life. You still get shot at – it just changes who is shooting.
Here's the quote from International Business Times: "Russian commanders have reportedly resorted to shooting at their own soldiers to force them to fight in Ukraine, according to messages intercepted by Ukrainian authorities.
Ukraine’s Security Service on Thursday released voice messages where a Russian commander complained about how his soldiers refused to fight in the war. The commander added that he tried to shoot at the “cowards” in an attempt to push them to fight in Ukraine, but to no avail.
“Mine also got very scared. All are tired out. I can’t get them up morally or physically. I even shoot some. And to no avail,” the commander said. “Everyone here is completely demoralized. There are 10-15 people left in the companies at best. About 60 young servicemen have been added… half of them are cowards, dammit, and panickers.”
Without the entanglement of France, we might still be a British colony. The west is arming and training Ukraine, just as France armed the US and provided training.
Ukraine had 3 1/2 centuries of domination by Russia. We remember it well. That's why we are fighting. Russia has had many vassal states, not a one of them happy with the situation.
I agree that Nuland is a nasty piece of work. Without her involvement there might not have been a war, though I am now inclined to believe streamfortyseven's claim that Putin was simply waiting for an opportune moment. But that is water under the bridge. We are in a war for our freedom.
At this point, having observed Russia's treatment of those who have surrendered, and the kidnapping of hundreds of thousands from Mariupol and Donbass, there is no choice but to fight. A Pax Russanovka would be a brutal thing. Not like Pax Romana or Pax Brittainica. History shows us clearly who the Russians are. They are brutal. Should they win in Ukraine there will be no Marshall Plan. It would be more like Pol Pot's victory in Cambodia.
Putin's intentions go *far* beyond Ukraine, they extend to Central Europe, the Baltic States, and eventually Western Europe. Stopping Putin in Ukraine is the exact same thing as stopping Hitler in the Sudetenland. And American "conservatives" opposed US intervention in *that* war up until Germany, under the Axis Pact, declared war on the US on December 11, 1941... It's interesting to watch so-called conservatives playing the same sort of dumb and not opposing the same kinds of land grabs that Hitler did, history at least rhymes if it doesn't repeat itself. Foundations of Geopolitics tells us exactly what Putin wants, no matter how much he might try to lie, and it's *all* of Ukraine, then Moldova, then Romania, then the Baltic States, then Central Europe, and so forth. It's all laid out in Dugin's book, and Putin is following it, exactly. When American "conservatives" figure this out is anyone's guess.
If only. This has been in the works since 1997, the Russians were just looking for an opportune moment - see p214-220 of this: https://n01r.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Foundations-of-Geopolitics-Geopolitical-Future-of-Russia-Alexander-Dugin-English-auto-translation-with-appended-original.pdf If a substantial number of American "conservatives" had not been suckered by Dugin's Fourth Political Theory, we might not be in this mess, they might not have dared to do it: "Fourth Political Theory, on the other hand, couldn’t be more different. You may have seen 4PT being praised by various nationalists in the West, as it has been heavily marketed to Westerners by Arktos Media (which publishes and translates Dugin’s work for Western consumption) and other “New Right” or “Alt-Right” influencers. 4PT is not designed for Russian consumption, but to be read by hapless Western nationalists. Dugin’s aim with 4PT is to ideologically subvert nationalists in the West, making them more malleable and likely to assist (passively or actively) him in achieving the political goals he laid out in Foundations of Geopolitics [FoG]. 4PT is overflowing with psychobabble, verbose gobbledygook, and complete bastardizations of various historic right-wing thinkers — particularly notable is the manner in which Dugin mutated and completely inverted the Traditionalist School of thought. 4PT will be quoted throughout this piece, but for an idea of the sort of nonsense included in the book, chapter 13, “Gender in the Fourth Political Theory,” is devoted to arguing in favor of a-sexual transgenderism. Behind the shoddy and transparent mask of phony “Traditionalism,” nothing separates Dugin’s Fourth Political Theory from the extant ideology of the New World Order* that he claims to oppose.
In summary:
FoG is Dugin’s political strategy document, in which he outlines highly detailed plans on how to create a Eurasian empire by subverting foreign nations, it was written for Eurasianists, to benefit Eurasianists. 4PT is an implementation of FoG’s political strategy, in that 4PT is a subversive book written for Westerners and disseminated in the West, to channel Western nationalism towards Eurasianist ends.
In brief:
FoG = Mask Off = Duginism-For-Me (For Eurasianists) = Influential among elites of Russia.
4PT = Mask On = Duginism-For-Thee (For the enemies/subjects of Eurasianists) = Promoted in the West by the Alt-Right, New Right, and Identitarians (specifically European Identitarians).
4. Eurasianism and National Bolshevism
The basic idea of Eurasianism, which is an ideology/movement dating back to the early 1900s, is that Russia belongs to neither Europe nor Asia and, therefore, must expand to conquer both. The basic aim of Eurasianism is the creation of a single Eurasian superstate/empire; an expanded USSR. To use a trite pop-culture reference, yes, just like ‘1984.’ Eurasianism wasn’t necessarily synonymous with Bolshevism but there was a lot of crossover between the two. Not all Eurasianists were Bolsheviks but all Bolsheviks were Eurasianists, this includes Bolsheviks in Europe as well as those in Russia. Eurasianism has been endorsed by a whole range of disreputable characters throughout history, and by that I mean our mortal enemies. Eurasianism has also been endorsed by a handful of characters generally regarded as reputable, such as Francis Parker Yockey. Eurasianism should be recognized as a form of Russian imperialism and malevolent globalism; it’s certainly, nothing that a nationalist should want to be involved in, though you don’t necessarily have to be a “nationalist” to oppose ultra-globalist hegemonies." https://streamfortyseven.substack.com/p/heres-a-little-article-by-aleksandr
God knows why, but I felt compelled to take extensive notes as I read The Fourth Political Theory. I have posted them here for you to reference in your dialog with istt. Which, by the way, appears to me to address the right issues.
And I made a comment to that very cogent analysis, part of which is this, addressing the pretty clear intent of the exercise: "Russian imperialism, the re-creation of the Soviet Union, the Eastern Bloc, and the Comintern" - that's what this is all about. And "Greater Eurasia" maps onto Hitler's conception of the world almost like a hand in a glove - perhaps Dugin should have cited Mein Kampf as source material...
I think Roberts has long gone past his "Sell By" date, he's been firmly in the pocket of the Russian imperialists for years now, doing his part to help them create their "Greater Eurasia". No doubt he got suckered by Dugin's "Fourth Political Theory", what appears to be a nice piece of dezinformatsiya put out to sucker "conservatives" into helping Putin et al re-create the old Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc. Ron Paul isn't too swift, either, maybe he should be made aware of the following, written in 1997, which has much present day significance:
"The absolute imperative of Russian geopolitics on the Black Sea coast is the total and unlimited control of Moscow along its entire length from Ukrainian to Abkhazian territories. It is possible to divide this entire zone on an ethno-cultural basis as much as you like, granting ethnic and confessional autonomy to the Crimean Little Russians, Tatars, Cossacks, Abkhazians, Georgians, etc., but all this only with absolute control of Moscow over the military and political situation. These sectors must be radically divorced from the thalassocratic influence coming from the west and from Turkey (or even Greece). The northern coast of the Black Sea should be exclusively Eurasian and centrally subordinate to Moscow..." https://n01r.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Foundations-of-Geopolitics-Geopolitical-Future-of-Russia-Alexander-Dugin-English-auto-translation-with-appended-original.pdf
And that last bit, written 25 years ago, is being carried out today. Crimea was the first chunk to be bitten off, now it’s Donetsk, Zaporhizia, and Kherson Oblasts, after that Odessa. Moldova appears to have been placed within the Moscow-dominated Eurasian sphere of influence. If this analysis is correct, then Romania is next, followed by Bulgaria - but Ukraine is the keystone. It should now be obvious - from this book written 25 years ago (whose full English translation I just found - French and German are easy, but Russian is hard work...) - that the outrage over the US-funded biological warfare labs and everything else was just a convenient pretext for something that was planned out decades ago.
Here’s some background on Aleksandr Dugin:
”Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin, the man behind “Duginism,” is a Russian political strategist with ties to some of the most powerful people in Russia; various oligarchs, billionaires, Kremlinites, military men, and even Putin himself. This includes people such as Sergey Naryshkin (Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service), Igor Rodionov (Defence Minister), and Gennadiy Seleznyov (Chairman of the State Duma). Dugin’s father was a colonel-general of Russia’s Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), which is essentially the Russian militaries’ own KGB; a foreign-intelligence agency. GRU was originally established in the USSR by Leon Trotsky’s deputy. Because Dugin’s father was an extremely high ranking glowie, Dugin was born into spookdom; the number of influential KGB agents that Dugin has collaborated with is too long to list: http://archive.vn/iOvCT.
More here: https://streamfortyseven.substack.com/p/putins-and-dugins-vision-of-a-greater, but Paul should read Dugin's book - the *real* version, not the "Fourth Political Theory" deception - he'd see Dugin's - and Putin's - *real* intentions towards the US and American interests.
There has been no impact to negotiations with Russia. Sanctions aren’t doing anything now except isolating them from the west. They still have the oil, gas and $600B of physical gold reserves. Their central bank is making it easy for friends to buy their exports. The USA threw all their leverage at them. They got take. Off swift... the Rouble is stronger now than it was in January. The USA is in an economically leveraged Keynesian nightmare, manufactured by our inept central bankers and the political left. I am no neocon, and I expect the world order to conduct business these days in peace. However, 2 months into this war, if nobody else is capable or willing, then the Ukrainians need to wipe out the Russians entirely. This crap with Russia being a threat backed up by China has to end in the 21st century. We spend $85B a year on the intelligence community... when we needed them most they just yelled at us, exclaiming that a very very bad man in Russia was starting a war... and then promptly did nothing. I’m right with Graham on this. What did we waste $1 Trillion on the pentagon over the last decade? I’m not suggesting American soldiers be deployed. The Ukrainians have proven exceptionally capable. Maybe even more efficient than Americans at this point given their abilities with the limited resources at their disposal up to this point. The American economy does not need this war now. It’s adding fuel to the domestic fire. Drop thermite plasma on the Russian Military for all I care. Send a space net and take out all of the Russian satellites. All 400 of them. Destroy their ability to communicate at all. Take them back to 1917. The Russians don’t have enough resistance in their population to stop him, fine. When this is over, I suspect Russia will look like Japan after WWII. One thing is certain: the Neocons got their wish. Now it’s time to fold them like Iraq in Desert Storm. But their chicken shits. Nobody wants to see Putin use nuclear weapons. I might remind everyone that it is the USA who had them first. The Russians were second. Stalin even claimed nuclear war with the west was inevitable. So we had better find a way to deal with that threat or it will make everyone a pussy from here on out. It’s not about punishment. Americans need our intelligence agencies out of this war. So they need to end it and end it now. Putin won’t negotiate in good faith or the neocons haven’t tried. Either way, whatever we have now isn’t working to stop anything. Putin will con-scribe his high schoolers and wipe out a generation. They got their wish, they’re at the big game. Putin wanted a war. Let’s give the Ukrainians what Putin asked for. Then we can punish the Russians. Diplomacy only works if the hard power to enforce it actually has a backbone. Time to go to the chiropractor.
I'm not particularly keen on supporting Putin and while I'm conservative, I've never seen Putin as a religious figure in any way. I was aware of Tucker who seems to want to avoid US troop involvement. I suspect there may be some troops involved that we will not hear about to assist in the field on a near individual basis. If Ukraine needs arms, the world should help. Russia needs to be stopped before any real escalation. We can hope Putin is not foolish enough to use nuclear weapons placing the west in a really crisis. But Russia has indicated that they are not particularly effective in the field allowing considerable losses. I worry more about how Russia can deal with the end of this conflict and what the world must do to rebuild.
You got everything right except your analysis of this war. The last thing the US should be doing is sending more weapons. It's not like Ron Paul and PCR are all of a sudden wrong. You are too close to this conflict. Putin has no desire to reconstitute the USSR. The US should be strongly encouraging both parties to sit down at the negotiating table, not sending $33B more in "assistance." Instead, the senile old man who has no clue what his handlers are doing, is sending more Ukrainian young men to their deaths for no reason.
Negotiation with the Russian has been an exercise in frustration throughout history. Read my posts about what Custine (1839), John Hay (1905) and others have written. We need to be willing to negotiate, but recognize that the Russians only recognize strength.
Young Ukrainian men are willing to die because they do not want to be Russian. They want to be free. The same thing that motivated Patrick Henry, George Washington and my namesake Nathan Hale. They would rather die standing up than live on their knees. They make me proud.
Russia has borders. If they go back within their own borders the war will end. Ukraine wants nothing except to be left alone.
George Washington, as you well know, is also famous for his "no foreign entanglements" speech. You and I both know none of our Founding Fathers would have supported our involvement in this conflict half way around the world. If we had not gotten involved this war would not only be over, it probably never would have been started, but because US neocons like Nuland and Blinken were urging Zelensky on, telling him we have his back, a lot of young Ukrainian men are dead. A whole generation of young men are gone. For what? Freedom? Nonsense. This war never should have started and all of these men would be alive today.
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You imply that allowing the Russians to win would save Ukrainian lives. It has not worked that way in occupied Donbass. The two people's republics are conscripting men between 18 and 60 to fight Russia's war.
Bob Homans wrote the same yesterday about Transniestria: "People are leaving en masse from the unrecognized Transnistria. The government there has announced a general military mobilization of all males between 18 and 60."
Communications have been intercepted from Russian field commanders indicating that they are shooting conscripts who refuse to fight the Ukrainians. Russia's soldiers don't want to be there. As has been the case throughout Russia's history, the common soldiers are disproportionately drawn from the hinterlands, disproportionately from ethnic minorities. Putin cannot afford unrest among the mothers in Petersburg and Moscow.
Bottom line is that surrendering to Russia is no way to save your life. You still get shot at – it just changes who is shooting.
Here's the quote from International Business Times: "Russian commanders have reportedly resorted to shooting at their own soldiers to force them to fight in Ukraine, according to messages intercepted by Ukrainian authorities.
Ukraine’s Security Service on Thursday released voice messages where a Russian commander complained about how his soldiers refused to fight in the war. The commander added that he tried to shoot at the “cowards” in an attempt to push them to fight in Ukraine, but to no avail.
“Mine also got very scared. All are tired out. I can’t get them up morally or physically. I even shoot some. And to no avail,” the commander said. “Everyone here is completely demoralized. There are 10-15 people left in the companies at best. About 60 young servicemen have been added… half of them are cowards, dammit, and panickers.”
Without the entanglement of France, we might still be a British colony. The west is arming and training Ukraine, just as France armed the US and provided training.
Ukraine had 3 1/2 centuries of domination by Russia. We remember it well. That's why we are fighting. Russia has had many vassal states, not a one of them happy with the situation.
I agree that Nuland is a nasty piece of work. Without her involvement there might not have been a war, though I am now inclined to believe streamfortyseven's claim that Putin was simply waiting for an opportune moment. But that is water under the bridge. We are in a war for our freedom.
At this point, having observed Russia's treatment of those who have surrendered, and the kidnapping of hundreds of thousands from Mariupol and Donbass, there is no choice but to fight. A Pax Russanovka would be a brutal thing. Not like Pax Romana or Pax Brittainica. History shows us clearly who the Russians are. They are brutal. Should they win in Ukraine there will be no Marshall Plan. It would be more like Pol Pot's victory in Cambodia.
BTW, Jefferson used the US Navy and Marines to go after the Barbary Pirates, operating off of Tripoli, Libya - "the shores of Tripoli" - in 1804... https://www.city-journal.org/html/jefferson-versus-muslim-pirates-13013.html
That's because they had a direct impact on the US. Ukraine does not.
Right. People in the US are overweight anyhow.
Putin's intentions go *far* beyond Ukraine, they extend to Central Europe, the Baltic States, and eventually Western Europe. Stopping Putin in Ukraine is the exact same thing as stopping Hitler in the Sudetenland. And American "conservatives" opposed US intervention in *that* war up until Germany, under the Axis Pact, declared war on the US on December 11, 1941... It's interesting to watch so-called conservatives playing the same sort of dumb and not opposing the same kinds of land grabs that Hitler did, history at least rhymes if it doesn't repeat itself. Foundations of Geopolitics tells us exactly what Putin wants, no matter how much he might try to lie, and it's *all* of Ukraine, then Moldova, then Romania, then the Baltic States, then Central Europe, and so forth. It's all laid out in Dugin's book, and Putin is following it, exactly. When American "conservatives" figure this out is anyone's guess.
Completely reject this premise. Putin is not Hitler. This analogy is trotted out at EVERY opportunity.
If only. This has been in the works since 1997, the Russians were just looking for an opportune moment - see p214-220 of this: https://n01r.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Foundations-of-Geopolitics-Geopolitical-Future-of-Russia-Alexander-Dugin-English-auto-translation-with-appended-original.pdf If a substantial number of American "conservatives" had not been suckered by Dugin's Fourth Political Theory, we might not be in this mess, they might not have dared to do it: "Fourth Political Theory, on the other hand, couldn’t be more different. You may have seen 4PT being praised by various nationalists in the West, as it has been heavily marketed to Westerners by Arktos Media (which publishes and translates Dugin’s work for Western consumption) and other “New Right” or “Alt-Right” influencers. 4PT is not designed for Russian consumption, but to be read by hapless Western nationalists. Dugin’s aim with 4PT is to ideologically subvert nationalists in the West, making them more malleable and likely to assist (passively or actively) him in achieving the political goals he laid out in Foundations of Geopolitics [FoG]. 4PT is overflowing with psychobabble, verbose gobbledygook, and complete bastardizations of various historic right-wing thinkers — particularly notable is the manner in which Dugin mutated and completely inverted the Traditionalist School of thought. 4PT will be quoted throughout this piece, but for an idea of the sort of nonsense included in the book, chapter 13, “Gender in the Fourth Political Theory,” is devoted to arguing in favor of a-sexual transgenderism. Behind the shoddy and transparent mask of phony “Traditionalism,” nothing separates Dugin’s Fourth Political Theory from the extant ideology of the New World Order* that he claims to oppose.
In summary:
FoG is Dugin’s political strategy document, in which he outlines highly detailed plans on how to create a Eurasian empire by subverting foreign nations, it was written for Eurasianists, to benefit Eurasianists. 4PT is an implementation of FoG’s political strategy, in that 4PT is a subversive book written for Westerners and disseminated in the West, to channel Western nationalism towards Eurasianist ends.
In brief:
FoG = Mask Off = Duginism-For-Me (For Eurasianists) = Influential among elites of Russia.
4PT = Mask On = Duginism-For-Thee (For the enemies/subjects of Eurasianists) = Promoted in the West by the Alt-Right, New Right, and Identitarians (specifically European Identitarians).
4. Eurasianism and National Bolshevism
The basic idea of Eurasianism, which is an ideology/movement dating back to the early 1900s, is that Russia belongs to neither Europe nor Asia and, therefore, must expand to conquer both. The basic aim of Eurasianism is the creation of a single Eurasian superstate/empire; an expanded USSR. To use a trite pop-culture reference, yes, just like ‘1984.’ Eurasianism wasn’t necessarily synonymous with Bolshevism but there was a lot of crossover between the two. Not all Eurasianists were Bolsheviks but all Bolsheviks were Eurasianists, this includes Bolsheviks in Europe as well as those in Russia. Eurasianism has been endorsed by a whole range of disreputable characters throughout history, and by that I mean our mortal enemies. Eurasianism has also been endorsed by a handful of characters generally regarded as reputable, such as Francis Parker Yockey. Eurasianism should be recognized as a form of Russian imperialism and malevolent globalism; it’s certainly, nothing that a nationalist should want to be involved in, though you don’t necessarily have to be a “nationalist” to oppose ultra-globalist hegemonies." https://streamfortyseven.substack.com/p/heres-a-little-article-by-aleksandr
God knows why, but I felt compelled to take extensive notes as I read The Fourth Political Theory. I have posted them here for you to reference in your dialog with istt. Which, by the way, appears to me to address the right issues.
And I made a comment to that very cogent analysis, part of which is this, addressing the pretty clear intent of the exercise: "Russian imperialism, the re-creation of the Soviet Union, the Eastern Bloc, and the Comintern" - that's what this is all about. And "Greater Eurasia" maps onto Hitler's conception of the world almost like a hand in a glove - perhaps Dugin should have cited Mein Kampf as source material...