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For a pro-Russian perspective, see Big Serge on Substack. Interesting how the same events can be seen from different perspectives. Serge's conclusion as to what Russia was up to with Kyiv does not make sense to me. Still, inasmuch as these are Ukraine's first major counteroffensives and seemed rather obligatory, it is worth reading another point of view.

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Sep 10, 2022Liked by Graham Seibert

When I read his claim that the capture of Izyum was the reason for the 'pinning' attack on Kyiv, I stopped. That's so obviously wrong as to be dishonest. I'm always interested in reading contrary opinions but I can't be bothered spending time on those who aren't writing in good faith.

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I was also very unimpressed by arthur brogard. He seemed incoherent and self contradictory in his flailing about to find reasons to blame Ukraine and exculpate Russia for everything.

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'civilization has come back stronger after every empire’s collapse' True, but the timescales can be brutal. Centuries and generations can pass first.

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Absolutely right. We are facing a long, hard winter.

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Sometimes I read people on the internet who almost seem to relish the prospect of a coming collapse. I don't think they know what they are wishing for. I pray that I am wrong and that we don't face a collapse. I think a full collapse of the West would be far harder and more difficult than people can truly conceive.

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I'm not praying for it, but I am preparing for it. I'm content for the moment to live in a fool's paradise, supported by Social Security and defended through spending that the US cannot afford. I'll take it while it lasts, but I have to accept that it will end abruptly and perhaps soon.

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Even in a collapse there will be refugia. In Bronze Age collapse and dark age, there were small patches such as the island of Euboea where settled communites seem to have been able to survive in relative peace. Ironically, parts of Ukraine might still turn out to be good places to sit out a collapse. Personally, I have my eye on certain hill top villages in Northern Italy. They exist because they were built by people escaping the collapse of Rome and they still exist today. But a collapse could take many forms and I fully expect to be completely surprised by how it happens, if and when it does come. I take comfort from knowing that my local church is over a thousand years old and have stood through repeated plagues, famines, civil war, dynastics wars and depressions. Life has continued in my village through all of that, our ancestors faced and worked through terrible troubles, it gives me some encouragement that we can also face our troubles.

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All we get now in the British news is the queen dieing and Charles being a promising replacement. Ukraine is forgotten which is how our news always goes.

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