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It seems from these- https://www.amnh.org/explore/videos/scicafe--lectures/bright-future-oceans-jeremy-jackson and https://www.e-flux.com/architecture/oceans/331861/revaluing-the-oceans - that climate change is only one of three major factors. The big factors are overfishing and fertilizer runoff and marine pollution - the author of the two pieces above, Jeremy B. C. Jackson has written a book about this - see https://www.amazon.com/Breakpoint-Reckoning-Americas-Environmental-Crises/dp/0300179391/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0 (note that the hardcover version is by far the cheapest).

In what I assume to be Ridd's chart, there seems to be a decreasing trend in coral cover running from 1985 to about 2012, followed by an increasing trend running from 2013 to about 2024, with the sharpest rise occurring from 2020 to 2021, when aircraft flights at >20,000 ft were largely curtailed - and in the last year there appears to be a decrease in coral cover. It's nearly impossible to draw any conclusions from this, I'd want to see correlations with other data before attempting to do so.

Invective and rhetoric aren't arguing, although they all too often pass for it nowadays. You might run this by your over-emotional liberal friend. Your friend should heed Jefferson's maxim: "Before speaking, count to ten if angry, if very angry, count to one hundred." He ought to calm down, and have another go at it, this time controlled by reason, rather than emotion.

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Graham Seibert's avatar

My grown kids used it twenty or thirty years ago. Lots of slang sits badly with me. "Gimme five" is one from the sixties that I hate.

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