The Interview of the decade: Joe Rogan and Robert Malone

20210103

I provided a link to the Joe Rogan interview with Robert Malone yesterday. It strikes me as a seminal event. The tide is shifting.  The Alt-right blogosphere is all atwitter.  Or, as we say these days, all agettr.

I have the desktop software to transcribe the interview, but cleaning it up would've been a lot of work. As I was thinking how to do that an email floated into my mailbox.

Congressman Nehls of Georgia thought it was so important that the country could not risk letting the evil people of Google take it down. In the first such instance I can recall, he had the entire interview read into the Congressional Record so it would be preserved for posterity.

I spent the day reading his transcript and making cliff notes. These notes are nothing fancy, but they indicate the topics that Joe and Robert talked about and on which page you will find them in the transcript. At the end, below, I've made a quick and dirty estimate as to the minute mark at which each page begins.

You see that at the end of the interview they get into a conversation about what is happening in the country and in the world that can lead to such madness. The operative phrase is Mass Formation. How can people get so crazy?  And, given that we are this crazy, how can we get out of it?

I have provided a link to Mattias Desmet in the my notes on their conversation. I have several related links in my blogs over the past couple of weeks. The Overton window of allowable discussion has moved to the point that they can now talk about this. It has not moved far enough for me to broach my opinions, which are:

·       This has a lot of the earmarks of a genocide – such as Mattias Desmet's ideas are  pointing to

·       The injections are designed to be irreversible – once the spike protein is in, you can't take it out.

·       The pervasive damage showing up in pathology analyses of vaccine injury victims has to be widespread.  It is just not yet visible.

·       There is more going on than even these guys can talk about. Subjects they do not mention include graphene oxide, metallic particles, magnetism, microorganisms, 5G wireless and much else. This is still in the tinfoil hat realm, but it is moving toward Overton

·       Since they have jabbed half the world population, we can look forward to a significant slow motion die off. This is on top of the depopulation trend that was accelerating anyhow.

·       The social conditions that led to Desmet's Mass Formation have been building for a century and will not be easily reversed. In the words of Charles Hugh Smith, writing in the oftwominds blog, we will probably have to "run to failure" before we will be able to regroup and rebuild.

These are the ideas I'll be chewing on in my next few blogs.   

My notes follow.  Here are the topics in the video, and page number on the transcript where they are discussed. 

Robert Malone's background that led to his invention of the mRNA process. 2

His close work with the Department of Defense 2

Desire to make products, not just do academic work. 2

Last 20 years – clinical trials, regulatory work 2

Participated in 100 clinical trials 2

drug repurposing and vaccine work

Friends in intelligence community.  Knows Tony Fauci personally.  Deep insider

Worked on Ebola vaccine 2

Banned from Twitter.  Never told him why.  3

Throughout this talk Malone is generally very careful not to make any accusations as to motives.  He simply states facts.  He is a target, and does not open himself up to accusations of libel.  3

Malone heard about Covid very early – Jan 4, 2020    5

Caught covid Feb 2020   6

Not willing to ascribe motives for bizarre behavior of government bureaucrats, out of fear of lawyers.  6

Government malfeasance.  Ulterior motives.   6

Killing hydroxychloroquine  7

Chinese used hydroxychloroquine  7

India crushes Covid with ivermectin (?)   8

India sworn to secrecy as to what worked in Uttar Pardesh during a meeting between Biden and Modi 8

Incredible weakness of government funded study showing ineffectiveness of natural immunity. 10

Nurse aspirated the needle before vaccinating Malone.  Pull back a bit to see if it is in a blood vessel.  10

Didn't aspirate vaccinating Biden. Was the shot a fake?  In the fake White House movie set across the street?  11

This is the first major epidemic since advent of social media 11

BBC Trusted News Initiative.  Eliminate dissenting opinions.  Malone tells me now that BBC is spearheading absolutely global initiative.  Probably does not include China and Russia.  Maybe not Al Jazeera.

Big media, government, big tech 11

Peter Duisberg was the first victim of Cancel Culture.  That was for his book "Inventing the AIDS Virus" in 1996.  Cancelled by Fauci.  12

Fauci, Cliff Lane and Francis Collins conspire by email to have Robert Malone, Peter McCullough and Sunetra Gupta  cancelled  13

Sweden response to Covid 13

Israel is on Pfizer jab #4.  Call if Pfizrael. There is a natural experiment: Israel takes the jab, Palestinians don't.  And they have substantially less mortality.  14

Covid is no problem in central Africa.  Why?  Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine quite probably, though there are compounding factors.  As always.14

Rate of infection is a function of the rate of testing.  Numbers are junk.  14.

License packet insert for Comirnaty (not available for sale, by design) will say clinical trials were inadequate to detect rare adverse advents.  The design flaws were not accidental oversights,  15

Financial incentives for hospitals in coding Covid admissions, tests, treatments, deaths, etc. etc. 15

FDA says that VAERS is basically junk 15

Hospital bonuses 15

Gunshot victims reported as Covid deaths. 15

FDA's job is to force Big Pharma to do their job.  They don't.

Maddy de Garay, one of 1000 children in Pfizer clinical trials, is permanently disabled.  Pfizer still calls it "gastric distress."  16

Fudge the clinical trials – take people out of the study when they are injured. 17

FDA job is to ferret out monkey business.  Which always exists – big financial incentives to do so.  17

Big money.  Clinical trials cost $40,000,000 to $100,000,000 18

Malone removed from Twitter for describing how Pfizer fudged the trials. 18

Thompson Reuters is fact checker for Twitter.  Interlocking ownership and directorate also with Facebook.  Conflict of interest.  18

Peter McCullough fighting for medical license.  Cost $150,000 legal fees so far.  Most published physician in medical history,  18

Outside financing for attacks on McCullough 19

Top doctor in Maui forced out 19

Malone's medical license is challenged. 19

Atlantic Monthly as the nexus of evil 19

Early treatment costs hospitals money.  They hate it.  Force people to take expensive treatments.  Collect the government bonus on covid cases and deaths. 19

Myocarditis is not mild.  It is 1 in 2700 or more.  Post myocarditis death rate is 27%.  Not trivial.  Especially not for kids.  20

No long term studies on vaccinated children.  Cannot be – not enough time.  21

Irregular menses in women.  Huge numbers of dysmenorrhea and metamenoraja.  Excess bleeding, unexpected timing, unexpected disappear and and reappearance.

Pfizer did (and ignored) rat studies showing that the synthetic lipids used to pack mRNA migrated to ovaries. NB: in this case, not the spike proteins. 22

Hassidic council of rabbis had Malone testify.  They are very interested in fertility of their women.  They mandated no jabs for kids, and adults be very cautious.  22

Spike proteins from 3 sources: covid itself, J&J adnovirus vaccine, and mRNA induced production within the body itself.

All cause clotting, brain fog and other things.  Common factor is spike protein. 23

Autoimmune diseases.  Mechanism is the same.  Spike binds to surface of key cells via ACE2.  Messes up micro muscles doing peristalsis forcing blood through the capillaries.  22

Micro vessels get blocked.  When blood sits, it clots.  That's myocarditis and pericarditis and other stuff.  24

Viral outbreaks of herpes, shingles, other things that had been held in remission. 24

Dissolves blood-brain barrier.  Stuff goes to brain that should not.  Hence brain fog. 24

Malone had brain fog.  So did Fredo Cuomo. 24

Reuters attacked him after appearance on Dark Horse podcast for saying spike protein is a toxin. 25

Yes it is toxic.  Question is how often, and how bad. 26

Drug companies and government alike don't provide numbers for outsiders to analyze the situation. 26

Ryan Cole is finding unusual cancers popping up. 27

What are multiple jabs doing to our immune system? 27

Shots shut off t-cell response.  Like anti-allergic shots, intended to reduce allergic reactions like sneezing.  27

Immunity against alpha or delta doesn't work well against omicron. 28

Shots are no longer "one and done" with advent of Omicron, says McCullough. 28

Malone caught delta 4 months after vaccination.

Antibody Dependent Enhancement.  ADE  Illness can be worse after being vaccinated.  Depends on who, how long since vaccination, and which strains. 29

Vaccinated more likely to get Omicron.  29

Many statisticians on Substack reanalyze government data.  The conclusions drawn by government are often "lying with statistics."  Graham says, yes – look at Matthew Crawford, Jessica Rose, Steve Kirsch.  30

How immune response works – sum of prior life experiences.  That is the Original Antigenic Sin (OAS.  I looked this up – a concept from 1960) that prior exposure to a related but dissimilar infectious agent can make your illness worse, not better.  A naïve immune system is better than one trained to fight the last war.  30

How do spike proteins differ?  The grabber part is the same.  The what-to-do-next parts differ.  31

Alpha – deep lung = bad.  Omicron – shallow (top of lung) = not so bad. 33

Omicron – no deaths, or maybe a couple 32

What is the common cold?  33

Eary Treatment!!  McCullough!!  Can't get Ivermectin now.  33

Graham adds: Here in Ukraine hydroxychloroquine and quercetin are available.  Ivermectin harder, though can do via mail order from India.  Veterinary ivermectin is widely available.  Same stuff – only question is dosage.

Omicron is more infectious (higher R0 – R naught) 33

US government is making monoclonal antibodies hard to get now.  Malone is almost tempted to call it criminal  33.

Imperial College London and its long record of wildly pessimistic forecasts – none of which came true. 33

Biden's Christmas message of abject fear and panic.  34

Forced vaccinations make no sense.  They go against medical ethics, the Nuremberg  Code, the Belmont Report.  They are flat out illegal.  It is too late for the military.  34

US cases are still mostly Delta in the hospitals 34

Government stopped distributing monoclonal antibodies on a phony excuse.  Let people die. 35

Forcing the extension of the Emergency Use Authorization EUA even if people die. 35

This is modern media management and warfare.  The truth is whatever the Trusted News Initiative say it is. 36

Careers at risk.  Malone can afford a risk. 37

Pfizer is one of the most criminal in the world 37

Introducing Mattias Desmet, Belgian psychologist with his theory of Mass Formation..  This is like the Salem Witch Hunts, Bolshevism, or the Nazis. 37

New York Times writes "How You Should Think…" and they mean it. 37

Desmet again.  They have scared, isolated and stampeded us.  38

Graham writes:  Follow the link above.  Inexplicably still up on YouTube.  38

Social pressure to get vaccinated 39

Robert Malone self-censors. 

Graham writes: see his Substack – best balance of free speech and depth. 39

Suing twitter 39

What's at stake.  Social credit systems 40.

About our children.  Malone is optimistic for the USA.  I'm placing my bets on Ukraine.  Granted I have not seen the more traditional parts of the USA for some time.  40

Doctors are cowed, but nurses are speaking out 41

Gettr alternative to Twitter 42

That's the news from Lake WeBeGone, where the men are strong – resolved to be back on the exercycle tomorrow – the women are as lovely as ever, and the kids are back in school. Everybody can rest.

Graham

Here is my guess as to the correspondence between page numbers above and minutes in the 3:06 long video.

Page  Time

1         0:00

2         0:04

3         0:08

4         0:13

5         0:17

6         0:21

7         0:26

8         0:30

9         0:35

10       0:39

11       0:43

12       0:48

13       0:52

14       0:56

15       1:01

16       1:05

17       1:10

18       1:14

19       1:18

20       1:23

21       1:27

22       1:31

23       1:36

24       1:40

25       1:45

26       1:49

27       1:53

28       1:58

29       2:02

30       2:06

31       2:11

32       2:15

33       2:20

34       2:24

35       2:28

36       2:33

37       2:37

38       2:41

39       2:46

40       2:50

41       2:55

42       2:59

43       3:03