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Ed Schaeffer's avatar

Ahhh, the joys of fatherhood!

Gary Goble's avatar

Trump is like the weather. If you don’t like what he’s saying today, just wait. I’m afraid that saying “well, at least he’s better than Camelface”, is just damning him with faint praise.

And should anything happen to the president, his replacement is absolutely no friend of Ukraine.

I’m taking an Ambien and going to bed. Maybe a little Moldovan cognac to wash it down.

Warren Capps's avatar

It's like getting a home run in baseball. Every time you mention New World Order I get a point.

Graham Seibert's avatar

The New World Order is getting a bit old, isn't it? I think I remember it from the 1st Bush administration.

The participants are not as organized as they would like. They have been losing quite a few battles lately. There is probably a better word for what's left of them. Any suggestions?

Warren Capps's avatar

Yet, you still are willing to use the term. Personally, I never believed in a secret cabal of folks seeking world domination. How about Newest World Order?

Graham Seibert's avatar

Please note that I referred to "a" New World Order. Not "the". I use the NWO term because it is widely understood. I chose "a" instead of "the" precisely because there does not seem to be a coherent notion of what it is. If there is a conspiracy, it has not congealed very well. Or is unraveling.

Masaki Fujii's avatar

I read somewhere that Deep States is a huge number of people around the world, especially in the United States, but there are around 30,000 people.

Their goals are probably money or wealth, so it can be said that they are connected in a unconventional manner.

Some of them are said to be eugenicists like Bill Gates, but they just want to kill people.

streamfortyseven's avatar

Trump is big on "trade with Russia" because he thinks he has the potential to make a lot of money there - there's a long history of that - https://www.americanprogress.org/article/cracking-the-shell/ - and he wants to keep Putin on side, because the only way Trump can get any money is with Putin on side - he's a bit like Putin's stable of oligarchs in that regard. Putin used the nuclear threat to condition and limit Biden's response, Putin uses the promise of riches to control Trump, and while Trump may be fooled by Putin into thinking he's a friend, Putin isn't and never has been... Trump is just another useful idiot. Good insights here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWSxLgb47hA and here's a proposed solution of mine - https://streamfortyseven.substack.com/p/there-is-a-way-for-trump-to-put-an

Graham Seibert's avatar

Trump seems interested in creating oppotunities for America, not himself. That's good. However, he is still misguided. Putin has enough money. He wants power. Trump is a useful idiot as long as he fails to see.

streamfortyseven's avatar

Did you have a look at that first reference? I've been hearing about Trump ("The Donald") since the 1970s - an uncle in NYC who was an attorney at Sullivan and Cromwell knew all about him - I think the "opportunities for America" part is a side effect, like pilotfish swimming alongside a shark... I think he'd like to see the US come back to where it was in the late 1970s- early 1980s, before the middle class was eliminated and its opportunities cut off short, by the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs - but cutting "deals" with Communist China isn't going to get that done. The trouble is that China and Russia still have the same sort of structures and strategies for domination that they had back then, and Trump doesn't seem to realize that, he's taken in by the opulence around their leaders and does not realize that that opulence comes from robbery, theft, and oppression of their peoples. Taking it one step further, he sees Putin as a Tsar, surrounded by boyars - oligarchs dependent on the tsar - and seeks to emulate that in the way he runs things - and that's not going to make America great again, much as the oligarchs keep Russia in poverty, at least comparative to where the US is now. His real trouble is - and perhaps always has been - is that he is blinded by opulence. An illustration - back in the 1970s, the Kansas CIty Country Club parking lot had all American cars, except for one person who had a BMW - and that was thought to be the height of ostentation. That person had van Gogh's Water Lilies painting hanging above the fireplace in her apartment living room - she owned an entire floor of the building. At one point her family had owned most of the state of Arkansas before selling out to the Weyerhauser corporation - she had been a close friend of my grandmother since both of them were in their 20s, in 1912... Something I heard often while growing up was "to you much has been given, from you much will be expected" - and grabbing up everything in sight was something that got punished, not rewarded. Ostentatious displays of wealth were not held in high regard, much the opposite. That's something that really changed, starting in the early 1980s - and that has created a lot of the problems we have now - attitudes common amongst the wealthy now were held in low regard then, they reflected badly on the people holding them and living their lives that way - "you just don't do that, that's just not done" = except today, it is, and there was not the terrible wealth inequality we have today.

Graham Seibert's avatar

This is a 2018 piece. Dearlove is part of the spook community that was against Trump from the beginning. I can't say there is nothing there - Trump does have a long and convoluted past - but he has got to be the world's most investigated man.

streamfortyseven's avatar

I know about Dearlove - but, as above, I've known about Trump for a long time - I expanded my answer... and Trump has been problematic/notorious for a long time, he's had dubious ties and got his wealth by dubious means and rather quickly, by sharp dealing, and by corrupt government. Trump is enough of a polarizing figure that it's hard to find detailed reporting on him that hasn't got some sort of bias behind it, that's the trouble with journalism today, too much opinion stuck in the reportage.

The reason I voted for Trump - and stuck a yard sign in my yard - was that the Democrats had outdone themselves with Harris, a corrupt incompetent who would have been Obama's puppet - and along with DEI and the rest of that Maoist crap, I'd simply had enough. Trump has come thorough quite well on his border policy, will hopefully be able to kick the illegals out, starting with the gangs - all brought in by the Democrats, and is doing his best to get rid of the racist DEI policies. My trouble with Trump is that he is too easily suckered by Russia and China, one run by a crypto-Communist, Putin, the other by the still very vicious CCP... and both are out for world domination. As compared to those, I prefer Pax Americana.

Graham Seibert's avatar

True. You don't make money in real estate in the Big Apple by being a choirboy.

streamfortyseven's avatar

And the Italian and Sicilian Mafias are choirboys, putti, compared to the Russian Mafia... but the Gambino connection was the least of it, the municipal corruption, bought politicians and agencies, and the use of eminent domain to screw people out of their property for cheap - and selling dear - and often the use of real estate transactions to launder money for organized crime figures, especially from Russia - and that's been known about since at least the early 1980s...

Joel W. Hay, PhD's avatar

It’s increasingly looking like Trump is tweedle Dumb to the Democrats tweedle D. He seems to like to provide endless opportunities for Putin to come up with Blatant lies to string him along further. And his new hires McCarry and Prasad for the Fda and CDC seem to be stepping up the MRNA vax poison distribution approval system with special emphasis on sterilizing pregnant. Women. We’re still waiting for anything new on any of the conspiracy theories from all of the information that the administration was going to release to the public, and so far nothing. Not even one little Green man from Mars despite the thousands of UFOs over jersey. I’m sure Trump is on the Rothschilds and Rockefellers list for a great big Pat on the back.

streamfortyseven's avatar

The actual, as opposed to declaratory, policy of the US with regard to Putin and Russia has been, under both Biden (citing "nuclear threat") and Trump (citing "lucrative TRADE deals"), has been to keep Putin in power, and Russia under Putin's dictatorship. If Putin goes away, Russia could end up like Yugoslavia after Tito died - in a series of hot civil wars between breakaway republics - Serbia, Croatia, Kosovo, Montenegro, and Slovenia. Tito, like Putin, had gotten rid of anyone who could succeed him, and the result was chaos after Tito died, it was a power struggle ending up in secession and war, in a country made up of diverse religious and ethnic groups. The same process, albeit much more peaceful, has happened in the former Czechoslovakia, now separated into the Czech Republic, Czechia, and Slovakia. Russia could well end up like this - but with some of the resultant republics armed with nuclear weapons - and it's possible that wars, like the one between Kosovo and Serbia, could erupt, with really unpleasant consequences for countries downwind.

Ukraine, therefore, must not be allowed to win, because if Ukraine won, Putin would be out of power. Thus, the US and its allies have dribbled and slow walked arms and materiel to Ukraine sufficient to prevent a victory by either Ukraine or Russia, which presumably keeps a stable status quo. The trouble is that Putin is in his early 70s and is in a very high stress job which he can't get away from, so that status quo might not last that long - and plans appear not to have ben made, just the usual kicking the can down the road... But the last thing the US and most of its allies want is for Russia to lose.